Saints Alive in Jesus – April 2010

 April 2010 Newsletter


A Note From Ed



Well, I am back up and running again. A trip to the Mayo Clinic in Arizona was the solution. After three Doctors and nine tests/lab workups, it was just more heavy meds that masked my symptoms and turned my mind to jelly.

Carol let that go on just so long and then she was on the phone with Mayo.  They had resolved similar issues several years ago and she knew they would get the job done again. The Doctors at the Mayo Clinic, working as a team, had me on the road to recovery within 24 hours and while I am slowly getting back to the old me, I was able to drop all the meds that had me looking like a stoner on holiday.

It amazes me that people go to all kinds of lengths to get those drugs, even stealing and robbery.

We are still working out a number of problems with the new website, but I believe that we are through the major issues and will have it running in inter-active mode in the near future.

For those of you who have emailed me the last few months and received no reply, hang in there. I am so backlogged and I can still only handle the computer for a few hours at a time.  I will get to all messages over the next few weeks.

I would like to thank all of you who responded to my son, Josh’s call for special giving last month.  Your responses were more than special.

We still need a few heroes.  If you can send in a special gift, it would be a great help right now.

Remember, you can give on our secure donation section on the website, or send a PayPal gift to us @ or call it in @ 1-800-861-9888 or mail it in to us at our mailing address: P.O. Box 1347 , Issaquah WA 98027



Your brother in Christ.  Ed Decker





The Mormon Art of Child Stealing

Missionary Dating


Ed Decker

April, 2010


A number of years ago. I was asked by a local pastor to meet with him and a troubled family. The daughter was in high school and dating a good-looking Mormon boy. Her baptism in the church was the following Saturday.

I met with him, the girl and her parents for over two hours.  The girl was a bit over-weight and not very attractive.  It was easy to see why she was drawn to both the boy and the Church he was bringing her into.

She had been raised in the family’s church and had been an active part of the youth program until the Mormon conversion by dating plan had struck her down.

In the end, no matter her parents’ and pastor’s pleading and my logical reasons for why a young Christian girl should not become a Mormon, she said that she was going to be baptized no matter what any of us said.

Her next words have stayed with me for almost 25 years. She said, “Look at me. No one has ever paid me attention in school. No one else has ever dated me, shown me love and caring as he has. He is beautiful in every way. I don’t care if I follow him to hell when I die, I am going with him.”


I recently received an email from a family that brought this all back to mind. Attached was a series of emails dealing with the blatant theft of their daughter by a young man about to leave for his mission.

Not only did their daughter join the church and be baptized without their knowledge, she hid away the  truth about his Mormonism and  when he left for his mission, he and his parents convinced her to move out of her parents’ home and live  with them, basically holding her spiritually hostage  awaiting the son’s return and a supposed temple wedding.

I grieve over this. It is a story I have heard a thousand times over. I told her dad this:

Regarding your note and the attachment, I have read through the many emails and the battle you have fought over Amanda and have to say, my heart is broken with yours.  I have been dealing with this child stealing for over 30 years and the stories are almost the same in every case.  Sometimes it is also a young man, infatuated with some LDS girl and the attention and love bombing…


The Mormons call it conversion by dating and actually encourage their young people to seek out non-members to date. Even young kids in Primary are used by eager parents to invite neighborhood and school friends to events and parties, to lure their families into a mood for missionary visits.


In many cases, within months of conversion, especially in high school, the Mormon moves on to the next ‘dating’ conversion and the new LDS teenager is on her own.


The vilest part of this child stealing is when they secretly baptize the child, and if the parents complain, they offer their home as sanctuary away from such ‘unloving’ parents.


The arrogance of their position is the clearest evidence of their ungodliness. ….


Again, I grieve with you.


I have noted that in many cases like this, the stolen child usually leaves the LDS church within a year’s time and the parents need to be alert to that possibility. The odds are much less, if she is tied to “missionary’ love and lives with his family…  

The average Mormon kid, trained up to be confident and outgoing is usually any parent’s dream. Those who have followed the church teachings and are true believers are like wolves in sheep’s clothing. They are usually well mannered, clean cut, charming and very respectful to the date’s family.

The canine teeth are tucked way back and before you can shout, “Wait!” Your kid is stolen right out from under your watchful eyes.

Christian parents and youth pastors need to build a wall of protection from these ravening wolves that prey upon your children. Most good Christian kids are not street smart and easy prey. They have to be immunized against attack. To fail to do so is asking for trouble, especially in high school.

Communicate and prepare them for these kinds of dangers. We do it regarding pedophiles who lurk around the vulnerable. Your children are equally vulnerable when it comes to the cults who prey on them with as much aggression as the pedophiles in the bushes.


Ed, I was in one of those “Missionary Relationships” for 18 years.  I was raised in the Christian faith and had a close relationship with the lord.   But, my parents never warned me about Mormons.  And I didn’t find out that he was Mormon until after the honeymoon.  He took out his ‘Book of Mormon,’ ‘Doc and Covenants,’ and his version of the ‘King James Version’ of the bible.  He tried to convince me that his church was the only church and that my church was apostate. 

But, my gut instinct helped me argue the points he wanted to make.  First, I took him to the end of the Bible where it says not to add or take away parts from the bible.  Then, I told him, he couldn’t take verses out of context and make the mean what he said they meant.  I stuck to my faith the whole time I was in the relationship.  And on Mother’s Day in 1992, the Lord blessed me with the ‘Holy Spirit.’  I have been able to stay strong ever since.  I was able to argue that my sons had the right to choose since he lied to me.  And both of them are Christians and attend my church.  God is good when you have faith in him, no matter what happens!” Becky

Ed, I have seen it with my own eyes, witnessed the heartache, seen the confusion. Families are forever? Families are for pillaging and wrecking more like it.   Mike

Ed, I was one of those, “stolen” from my family. I was converted to Mormonism via a young man I was dating. I wish, oh I wish my parents would have done to warn me… but 19 yrs later I did come out, but without a few battle scars. This is very well written, and very true. Gloria

If you have a story to tell about the Mormon Art of Child stealing, drop me an email and tell me about it.  The LDS raise up their children to use the art of conversion by dating as evidence of their commitment to the faith.

I remember speaking to a local church youth group in my home town of Issaquah and asking the group how many of them invited a friend, neighbor  or schoolmate to the group that week.  Not one hand went up.

I told them that at an LDS youth Fireside, almost every hand would go up and half of those would have arranged transportation to bring the guest.  Tells you why the Mormons can steal our children so easily, doesn’t it.




The World seems to be spinning out of control. Some of the news lately is so off center that I have to think we are victims of global insanity.   Let me show you what I mean.


Trinity College

Wednesday, April 21, 2010

Article by By Casey Curlin:

Texas {Muslim} students see religious bias with ‘year of Our Lord’


Students [ Muslim] at a Texas college are demanding that their diplomas not be dated “in the year of Our Lord,” prompting school officials to consider removing that phrase while leaving what others consider another obvious reference to Christendom — the school’s name, Trinity University… A Presbyterian, Christian College

Senior Sidra Qureshi, a Muslim student and president of Trinity Diversity Connection, started a petition that requested that students have the option of having the words removed from their diplomas.

Isaac Medina, a senior who graduated in December, told the San Antonio Express-News in March that he felt like “a victim of bait and switch” because he had applied to the university under the impression that it maintained only a historical bond to the Presbyterian Church.

Brendan McNamara, president of College Republicans at Trinity, said that the wording should remain on the diploma for traditional and multicultural reasons. “The fact that we have a chapel on campus, a Bible on our seal, a reverend, and a Christian reference in our name makes the argument that students were a victim of ‘bait and switch’ rather silly



Western Wall Not in Israel

Says UK Advertising Standards Authority


The UK ‘s Advertising Standards Authority said implying that the Western Wall is in Israel is misleading. HonestReporting goes on-site to investigate…

Not only have some tourists been stranded by a volcanic ash cloud in recent days but their trauma has been multiplied by the revelation that they weren’t even holidaying in Israel , their destination of choice. According to the UK ‘s Advertising Standards Authority, an Israeli tourism ad breached rules on truthfulness due to the misleading implication that sites such as the Western Wall could actually be in Israel .

the ASA, which has, so far, refused to reconsider its ruling. Despite the obvious inversion of reality, the ASA has stated:

Our ruling does not prevent the Israeli Government Tourist Office from depicting the Western Wall or other parts of Jerusalem in future advertisements. The ruling solely seeks to ensure that future ads do not imply that places in the occupied territories are part of the State of Israel.

How can Israel advertise the Western Wall without the implication that the site is in Israel ?

LDS [illegal] immigrants

Public Forum Letter
Salt Lake Tribune

Updated: 04/21/2010 03:09:33 PM MDT

I was appalled after recently reading this 2008 statement by Elder Marlin K. Jensen, a general authority of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: “The church’s view of someone in undocumented status is akin, in a way, to a civil trespass.” Jensen related it “to coming onto someone’s property uninvited” and said, “There is nothing inherent or wrong about that status.” Really? If I had an outstanding warrant for a trespassing ticket that I hadn’t paid, I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t qualify for an LDS temple recommend until it was taken care of. I also see a giant difference between crossing a fence posted “No trespassing” and sneaking into a country, buying stolen Social Security numbers and not paying taxes.

In a meeting of LDS Church stake presidents in May 2006, church authorities instructed local leaders that the church was no longer going to acknowledge the country borders that man has set, and that no church leader should deny an undocumented individual church privileges based solely on that illegal activity. I’m sad and confused by the LDS Church ‘s quiet stance on this serious issue. I pray our church leaders will support our U.S. government.

Army Disinvites Graham to Pentagon Prayer Day

Thursday, 22 Apr 2010 07:06 PM

Evangelist Franklin Graham’s invitation to speak at a Pentagon prayer service has been rescinded because his comments about Islam were inappropriate, the Army said Thursday.

Graham, the son of famed evangelist Billy Graham, in 2001 described Islam as evil. More recently, he has said he finds Islam offensive and wants Muslims to know that Jesus Christ died for their sins.

Army spokesman Col. Tom Collins said Graham’s remarks were “not appropriate.”

“We’re an all-inclusive military,” Collins said. “We honor all faiths. … Our message to our service and civilian work force is about the need for diversity and appreciation of all faiths.”

The Military Religious Freedom Foundation had raised the objection to Graham’s appearance, citing his past remarks about Islam.

Collins said earlier this week that the invitation to attend the National Day of Prayer event at the Pentagon wasn’t from the military but from the Colorado-based National Day of Prayer Task Force, which works with the Pentagon chaplain’s office on the prayer event.

As co-honorary chair of the task force, Graham was expected to be the lead speaker at the May 6 Pentagon service. Country singer Ricky Skaggs was expected to perform.

Since Graham’s invitation was rescinded, the task force has decided not to participate in the military prayer service, Collins said.


Pentagon Widens Christian Ban;

Graham Says It’s Anti-Religion

Monday, 26 Apr 2010 11:39 PM

By: David A. Patten

The entire National Day of Prayer task force, including the Rev. Franklin Graham, has been “disinvited” to the National Day of Prayer observance to be held at the Pentagon, sources tell Newsmax.

And evangelist Franklin Graham believes the military’s effort to ban him and other Christian leaders is nothing short of an effort to stamp out Christianity from the military.

The Pentagon’s decision to disinvite not only Graham, but also the National Day of Prayer task force led by author Shirley Dobson, the wife of influential Focus on the Family founder Dr. James C. Dobson, suggests the Pentagon’s rejection of Christian leaders is much broader than previously recognized.


Comedy Central Allows Mockery of Christianity on South Park but Bleeps the Name ‘Prophet Muhammad’ from a Recent Episode


WASHINGTON, April 23 /Christian Newswire/ — Network “censors” South Park after radical Islamic group makes threats about the portrayal of the Prophet Muhammad.

It is bigotry and discrimination at its worst to protect one faith tradition, Islam, and allow others to be mocked and ridiculed.

South Park has a long history of mocking Christianity and its values which Comedy Central has repeatedly aired.

By bowing to the pressure of radical Islamic extremists, Comedy Central shows their utter contempt for free speech, their cowardice and their distain for religious tolerance and equality.

Sadly, this double standard by Comedy Central toward Christianity reflects the prevailing attitude in pop culture toward the Christian faith and their values.



On Fox News last night as Glenn Beck, Charles Krauthammer, A.B. Stoddard, and Bill Kristol condemned Dutch activist Geert Wilders as a “demagogue” and a “fascist.”

Mr. Wilders, the leader of the Party for Freedom in The Netherlands, produced a controversial documentary on Islam in Holland called “Fitna.” In the short film, Mr. Wilders argued that “there is no such thing as ‘moderate Islam’” and that the Prophet Muhammad would “. . .in these days be hunted down as a terrorist.”

In the past, the former member of the Dutch National Parliament was a frequent guest on Fox News. Last February, Bill O’Reilly welcomed Mr. Wilders to America , while condemning a scared Britain for banning him entrance to the country.

While Mr. Beck labeled Mr. Wilders as a “fascist,” Mr. Krauthammer said that the popular Dutch politician, who is a leading candidate for Prime Minister, doesn’t know the difference between Islam and Islamism.

Ms. Stoddard expressed her agreement with Krauthammer and added that “if people like this (Mr. Wilders)) are elected to lead Holland it will suffer the consequences.

The well-orchestrated attacks on Mr. Wilders came in the wake of news that Rupert Murdoch, the CEO and principal stockholder of News Corps, the parent company of Fox News, will make Abu Dhabi , the headquarters of his global media operations in the Middle East .

Mr. Murdock has established strong links with the Arab Muslims, last month agreeing to invest 70 million dollars in the Rotana Group, an enterprise is controlled by Saudi tycoon Prince Alwaleed bin Talal.

Prince Talal, in turn, now owns 7% of News Corps. He is #22 on the Forbes list of the world’s wealthiest people.

The change in Fox News and its stance on Islam has been noted by Walid Shoebat, a former member of the Palestine Liberation Organization, who converted to Christianity.

Mr. Shoebat says that Fox New now prohibits critics of Islam and Islamic terror from appearing on its broadcasts.

He contends that the prohibition stems from the fact that Prince Talal is now the second-largest shareholder in News Corporation, the parent company of the Fox News Channel.




       A while back I was speaking at a State University in Utah and made the statement that Mormonism was “the American Islam.” I drew a comparison between the claims of Mohammed and Joseph Smith, the Koran and the Book of Mormon. During the Question and Answer time, I faced a number of very agitated Muslims. In fact, the Muslim interaction all but overshadowed the dialogue on Mormonism. The next day, I met with two Muslim leaders and began a series of contacts that forced me to take a deep look at its history, its tenets of belief and its comparisons to orthodox Christianity.

Today, there are over 7,000,000 Muslims in the United States alone. That is more than all the Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses and Christian Scientists combined. An extremely militant proselytizing program is under way in many major cities and in every State university I have visited. The Muslims are going to make the Mormon missionary effort look pale in comparison. As orthodox Christians, we are going to have to be ready to deal with what I believe may be the most aggressive attack on Christianity in its history.

Let’s take a look at the faith of Mohammed. When he was born in Mecca in 570 AD, the black Kaaba Stone was the religious center of all Arabia . In Mohammed’s day, 365 idols were worshipped there, standing in the great courtyard. One of those deities was called Allah and was the god of the Quarish tribe, of which Mohammed was a member. When the Quarish tribe took control of Mecca , all the idols except Allah, the idol of their tribe, were destroyed.

The Koran tells us that Mohammed drove the other idols away; his god was now the only god and he was its messenger. But he kept the Kaaba as a holy, sacred place and confirmed that the black stone had the power to take away man’s sins. He obligated every believer to make a pilgrimage to the stone at least once in his lifetime. (Sura 22:26-37)


Islam teaches that God is so far above man in every way that he is virtually unknowable. He will send individuals to Paradise or Hell as he chooses.

Islam teaches that Jesus was a messenger of God, not the son of God. Muslims deny the He is Almighty God come in the flesh. (John 1:1-14, I John 4:1,2). They deny that He is divine. ( Col 2:9) They deny that He died on the Cross for our sins (Most believe the Judas died in his place). They deny that He rose from the dead. (Matt 26: 28, John 19:20) They deny that He is the final, conclusive revelation of God. (Heb. 1: 1-2)


Is this stone idol the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob? Just because Mohammed said so doesn’t make it so! Allah chose Hagar and her son, Ishmael for his covenant. The God of the Bible chose Abraham’s other son, Isaac, as heir to His covenant. (Gen 21: 12, 22:2-18)

Allah is an impersonal being, impossible to approach or comprehend. The Bible’s God befriends men like Abraham (Is. 41:8) and talks with them (Gen 18:23ff)! He loved us so much He sent His only begotten Son to die for us! (John 3:16)

Allah is a god of fear and terrorism that commands destruction upon those who refuse to convert to Islam. The Bible’s God delights to show His boundless mercy. His gospel is the “Good News” of peace and forgiveness.

Allah requires total obedience to Islam and weighs the works of people. Allah and the Koran relegate Jesus to just the last prophet before Mohammed, below his authority. Jesus was not the Way, and could only point the way to Mohammed. The Bible’s God can only be reached through Jesus Christ and trust in Him is the only way to Heaven. (John 14:6).

Allah required the works of Mohammed to complete his words of judgment to man. The God Of The Bible sent His son who did the finished work of grace for man. (John 19:30)

In the light of Allah’s actual origin and his radical difference from the God of the Bible, we must conclude that Allah is not God. Nor is the name, Allah, a generic Mid-East name for God, as even many Christians think. Allah is the name of a false god who cannot save anyone from anything. Rather, through his false prophet, Mohammed, he continues to lead hundreds of millions into eternal darkness.


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